Will Tumbles be late to pay back a loan?
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[image]Ladies and gentleman, I’m afraid it’s looking pretty joever. My balance is -731k. Once the loan markets resolve, counting my outstanding loans, I’ll be almost three million mana in the red. It’s been an honour meming with you all. To my investors/creditors, I’m sorry it ends this way. This was always going to end in either glory or disaster, and unfortunately it came to disaster. I’ll make a mini final report once the dust settles and markets finish resolving.
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@Tumbles I think I might actually make it 😆
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Yesterday I lost almost 100k mana, Donald Trump was inaugurated and immediately began acting as expected, my streamer man got credibly accused of sex crimes, and my bamboo shrimp died. WHAT A FUCKED UP DAY [image][image](Photos are off the shrimp's widow, he was at least twice as big)
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[image]Overnight profit spike estimation in the case of a Conservative election win has now surpassed two million mana (estimation assumes my loan market drops to 5%)
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Resolves YES if @Tumbles is even slightly late to pay back any mana loan that they intentionally accepted. Any extensions must have been agreed upon in advance.

@Tumbles may choose to resolve this market NO if they don't owe any mana to other users. Once they do so, they will be prohibited from taking on any new loans for three months.

I will use this description as a ledger of what I owe and when I owe it. I will update it as appropriate. All amounts listed include any fees or interest associated with the loan. Dates listed are the final day during which payment is not late (PST -8:00).

May 4th 2025 - Ṁ22,000 @bens

May 5th 2025 - Ṁ16,239 @Robincvgr

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @nikki

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ4,000 @Bayesian

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @10thOfficial

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @zsig

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ80,000 @Gen

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ6,000 @Vortex

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ4,000 @jcb

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ100,000 @Tripping

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ84,138 @Quillist

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ4,000 @A

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @spiderduckpig

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ2,674 @Robincvgr

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ3,392 @mana

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @No_uh

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @equinoxhq

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ4,000 @JeffreyDeLucca

June 8th 2025 - Ṁ20,000 @wasabipesto

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ20,000 @TheSchwa

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ4,000 @Fion

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @Mh

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ20,000 @sophiawisdom

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @copiumarc

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @BlackCrusade

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @AleaNiled

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ10,002 @Qoiuoiuoiu

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @Nightsquared

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @khang2009

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @atmidnight

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @bence

June 9th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @draaglom

June 10th 2025 - Ṁ2,002 @crowlsyong

June 11th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @kopecs

June 11th 2025 - Ṁ20,000 @copiumarc

June 11th 2025 - Ṁ10,000 @Odoacre

June 11th 2025 - Ṁ5,000 @10thOfficial

June 11th 2025 - Ṁ2,690 @CryptoNeoLiberalist

June 12th 2025 - Ṁ2,000 @ONEMILLION

July 31st 2025 - Ṁ33,000 @TimothyJohnson5c16

July 31st 2025 - Ṁ56,800 @AndrewG
August 2nd 2025 - Ṁ16,500 @ScipioFabius
August 31st 2025 - Ṁ79,000 @Joshua
August 31st 2025 - Ṁ39,000 @EBurk
October 31st 2025 Ṁ70,000 @UniversalFC
October 31st 2025 - Ṁ56,000 @Vortex
October 31st 2025 - Ṁ70,000 @DrDerek
Jan 7th 2026 - Ṁ269,000 @AmmonLam

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,414 @Fion

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ69,696 @GazDownright

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ9,696 @Tripping

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,804 @Robincvgr

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @Odoacre

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ30,000 @EBurk

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,414 @crowlsyong

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ14,070 @cthor

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @jim

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ15,000 @copiumarc

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @zsig

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ25,200 @ahalekelly

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @robert

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ10,176 @mana

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @bohaska

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ10,140 @NivlacM

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @GastonKessler

April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @spiderduckpig
April 20th 2026 - Ṁ6,000 @A
April 20th 2026 - Ṁ60,000 @Simon74fe

Total: 1,534,047

Loans paid off or cleared since Biden dropped out: Ṁ981,800 (short term loans not included)

Total loans previously paid off on time before Biden dropped out: 711,679

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lmfao i did not expect to be the #2 no holder

I just did some accounting. If right now Pierre somehow won the election and this loan market fell to 5%, my net worth and profit would increase by about Ṁ1,900,000. A few more loans and we'll be looking at a 2 million mana in overnight profit

If you're wondering how that's possible, my current expected value from the election markets is 3 times my net worth. How can my value from one market be higher than my value overall?

My daily loan total attached to this market (and similar markets) is about 300k higher than the value of my shares

Overnight profit spike estimation in the case of a Conservative election win has now surpassed two million mana (estimation assumes my loan market drops to 5%)

@Tumbles Why should it dip to 5%? Your 6x special feature is very bold considering your track record.

@Eliza At the start of the year the market was at 8%. If the conservatives win the election I win a couple million mana, more than enough to pay everyone back. It's a pretty safe prediction, I think.

@Tumbles you're on the record that you will not pay back the 6X participants immediately. That means you're planning on giving yourself 12 months to lose it all again.

@Eliza a track record of being too big to fail!!

Reposting this meme by @snazzlePop for no particular reason

filled limit order Ṁ1/Ṁ1 NO at 65%

@Tumbles who will be running this complex after your eventual death? You could avoid Yes resolution by having a substitute.

Or do you hope that the complex will be out of debts before that?

@Henry38hw is this… a death threat? Or am i misreading?

@bens I expect this complex's strategy to have a chance to work for decades. So this question arised.

You misread, there is no threat.

@Henry38hw In the event of my death, all debts go unpaid and the market resolves YES. This is to incentivize my creditors to step up to protect my own life and security if called to. They are basically my bannermen.

@Tumbles not only creditors, but also No shareholders

Hey look we're on Manifold's home page! Every name in the description is famous now!

Can someone make the Inverse Tumbles Hedge Fund? I will be your first investor.

@Joshua could you explain?

@Henry38hw Create an account which follows Tumbles around and strategically takes his worst limit orders. Fund this with managrams from investors, who are entitled to 80% of the profits. Create a market for "Will the Inverse Tumbles Hedge Fund be profitable one year from now?" to advertise.

@Joshua If someone creates an Inverse Tumbles fund, I will invest at least 10k mana (within a few days; I'd need to come up with it)

This implies Tumbles survives and does not brick his account.

@Quroe we could pay Tumbles a small rate to tell us how he would bet on various new major markets

@Joshua @Robincvgr I might make a bot that always bets against Tumbles. No guarantees on any returns though.

@nikki this feels exploitable

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